PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Naeem on 24 Sep 2008, 08:13

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Some years back this world was much peaceful with no certain issues of religion and identity. A conspiracy changed the whole scenario and now a War of Identification has swarmed through nations and countries. The most affected victim of this war is Pakistan. Pakistan could have been a very peaceful country if its rulers had understood and avoided this complicated trap. Alas they do not have any vision and have always been in a miserable condition. Yes...our rulers and fake ulemas are in a very miserable condition. Their only vision is greed of wealth and power which they enjoy in a fearful condition. Imagine if Pakistani leaders had no security issues then they could have the liberty to mingle with common people and exchange beautiful innocent feelings. They could have walked freely on roads without any thoughts of being attacked. Imagine if they could just walk in a cafe to have a cup of tea and mix with people and share their happy or sad moments. Imagine if they had the liberty of enjoying the summer rain or winter sun with uttermost joy. Imagine if their policies were admired by people and every time they come in public they could get the blessings of elders and thanks from youngers. Imagine if their visions could have changed the fate of this country then visualize that they could visit or welcome leaders of othee nations with their heads raised in pride and confidence. Just picture the view that if they could have started working for the welfare of this country after independence then every citizen of this country could have been their well wisher.

Instead we had been ruled by a bunch of psychological patients in different shapes like dictators and so called democratic parties who are over whelmed by their own desires and greeds. They are so miserable that they cannot run a country which they rule. While in public they put fake smiles on their faces but the fear of an unknown bullet or blast can be clearly seen on their faces. They take high security measures to save themselves but still someone kills them brutally. They rob the country with both hands but in the end cannot enjoy that money as death comes to them from an unknown source. Its a pity that they cannot face the leaders of other nations and their media as their heads are down with uncertainity of their own future. Their words do not match their body language or ground realities. Elders are cursing them youngers are abusing them. Despite red alerts they die in plane crashes, bomb blasts or by blind bullets. What kind of dejected life they have.....their bank balances cannot save them...their guards cannot save them.......their own countrymen do not like them........

As a citizen of pakistan I want to pray for them....I want to pray for their misery and I offer them to change because if they change now then may be the coming generations will remeber them in good sense and with respect....... otherwise they will be cursed...........as always and as per routine.
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 29 Sep 2008, 06:52

Pakistan Kay Taliban

There are many types of Talibans in every sector of this country. We can even find many Talibans in this forum.

Pakistan say taliban kabhi khatam nahii ho saktay....Because a majority of them are so called educated and they think that Allah ka Qanoon hay...muslims nay poori dunya per hakumat karni hay........sirf mulims hi sab say achayy or superior hain baqi dunya bhaarr main jaye.

And there is also some discussion about Khilafat in this forum.....It is a suggestion to all those who talk about khilafat that they must go to Middle East or Turkey and there they may try to discuss Khilafat ...then they will see what those people will do to them.................Its very easy to say that people are working on this project of khilafat and it is more easy to say that khilafat is Allah Ka qanoon.......My dear innocent fellows....Allah ka Qanoon yeh hai kay mehnaat karooo aur apnii qaum ko taraqii do.....na kay baith kar fazool discussion karooo........tum sab loogoon ka damagh pagal maulvioon nay kharaab kia hay jinhoon nay sarii umer na khud kuch kia hay na kissi doosray ko karnay dia hay....tumharay nazdeek har banda kafir hay bass tum theek hoo.

Islam ISalm ko tootay ki tarah ratnay say tumhain jannat nahi milnay wali....khilafat waghaira agar ho bhi jaye to phir bhi mehnatt to karni parii gi na...or do you think kay if there is Khilafat then every thing will be ok like a miracle and muslims will be the most intelligent people of the world..... nahii....kaam karna shuroo karoo...apnii hadioon main abhi say kaam dalo gay tabhi next generations ka bhalla ho ga.......eik taraf jahil taliban apnay hi muslim loogoon ko maar rahay hain...doosri taraf jahil media kissi baywaqoof gadhay ki tarah chilllaa raha hay....mulk doob raha hay...bijli nahii hay...mehngai ka burraa haal hay aur aap loogoon ko Islam, Khilafat Secularism ki parriii hay......apna intellectualism apnay pass hi rakhoo aur apnay damaghoon ko khool kar soochooo kay tum loog apnay mulk kay ghareeb loogoon ki bhalai kay liye kia kar saktay ho...aur agar nahii kar saktay to bas ghar baith kar sirf Allah Allah ka wird karoo kioon kay phirr tum issi qabil ho....
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Truth on 29 Sep 2008, 07:02

Dani bhai ap bata do kay 1 muslim ki kia zimmay dari hai??
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 29 Sep 2008, 07:21

Muslim ki zimmaydarii...Truth ...Muslim ki zimmaydarri hay kay woh Insaan ban kar Insaanoon ki bhallai kay liye sooochay ta kay aakhrat main bhi uss ka bhall ho...nay kay apnay nazriaattt ko dossroon per thoonsay...khud bhi pagal hoo aur doosary ko bhi pagal karray......puranay zamany kay mussalman to her waqt looggonn ki bhallai kay liye kaam kartay thay...woh philosopher thay, mathematician thay, physics kay master thay, medicine per raaj kartay thay, political science per unn ki ijara darrii thi, space science per kaam kartay thay, kitabain likhtay aur parhaty thay...aaaj ka musalmaan ulloo ka patha hay...jiss ko fazool bakwaas kay ilawa kuch nahii aataa......Najany kiisss ki nazar lagg gayee hay humain kay hum sab hi eik sairaab main phans kar reh gaye hain...hum eik buhat achii qaum thay...Pakistan aur sub continent ka intellect buhat buhat oonchaa tha lekin sab kay sab jahil bann gaye hain from upper to lower class.....her kissi ka apna Allah hay aur her kissi kay Allha kay apnay Qanoon hain.....maulvioon nay pagal kia huwaa hay........unn ko apnay tondain barhanay kay ilawa kuch nahii aataaa...kissi ko taraqii say ya apany bachoon kay mustaqbil ki koi parwah nahii...apna apna mazhab hay aur apni apni jahalat.....yeh qaum agar abb baith gayee to phir kabhi nahii kharii ho sakay gi...aur koi bhi iss qaum ko bachaa nahi sakay ga....na intellectualism na khilafat aur na koi divine qanoon.
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Truth on 29 Sep 2008, 07:32

al hamdulillah bohot saray muslaman insaan ban kar insanoon ki bhalai kay leye sooch rahe hain....or koi esa muslaman nahi hai kay jo apne nazriaat doosroon per thoons raha hoo..esa kahi bhi nahi hoo raha

yar ap jo baat karr rahe hoo wo 1 Genreal problem hai or iska solution koi aam admi solve nahi kar sakta...ye govt. ka kam hai kay wo esi polocies tar teeb day jis se insaniaat ka bhala hoo..jab tak govt. kuch nahi karay gi apni awam ka bhala nahi chahe gi to os waqt tak har koi Riayasat kay andar Riayasat banae ga or phir apne problems ko khud hi solve karne ki koshish kareega ..ajkal yahi hoo raha hai...
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 30 Sep 2008, 11:28

Hum sab collectively suffer kartay hain iss dunya main..jahan tak aqeeday aur belief ki baat hay to uss ka ajaarr to her kissii ko aakhrat main individually milay ga.......iss liye agar sooch nahii badlay gi to phir kuch bhi theek nahii ho sakta..aaj amrikaa hum per kioon hamla karta hay...kioon kay woh jantaa hay kay iss qaum kay pass savaaiy emotions kay kuch bhi nahii hay...her taraf emotions hain...ghairat izzat aur naam nihaad namoos kay emotions......array bhai kabhi jahilloon kay emotions ko kabhi kissi nay importance di hay....kabhi aap nay kissi bhikarii ki izzat ya ghairat kay baray main sunna hay....jo qaum her baat kay liye doosroon kay aagay haath phailati hay uss ki koonsi izzat hay....bijli nahii amrikaa say mango.....gandam nahii hay...australia say mango...oil nahii hay...saudi arab say mango....professor nahii hain...UK say mangoo...sports coach nahiin hain..gooroon say mangoo.....fauj ko aslaha dayna hai...usa say mangoo.....Hum maang maang ker zindagi guzaar rahay hain...aisay hallat main agar amrikaa, taliban, agencies aur koi bhi aa kar hamaray mulk main terrorism karta hay to yeh karna buhat aasaan hay kioon kay hum khuud hi iss qabil nahii kay koi bhi cheese bana sakain ya kuch bhi rook sakain.........iss mulk ko abb sincere loogoon ka khoon chaiye jo shaaid iss mulk ki kismet badal day....darr sirf yeh hai kay agar massom blood bhi iss mulk ko na badal saka to sab kuch baykaar hoo jaye ga........
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Awaragypsy on 01 Oct 2008, 23:22

Aslam O ALikum all ....



@ Dani sahib a very simple question , Jenab ISLAM kaay baraaay main kitnaa Janntay hain ???


And Dear brother about emotions, in ur last post's last paragraph :-

"" iss mulk ko abb sincere loogoon ka khoon chaiye jo shaaid iss mulk ki kismet badal day....darr sirf yeh hai kay agar massom blood bhi iss mulk ko na badal saka to sab kuch baykaar hoo jaye ga........""

I guess i dont find any niether any one else around could posibly see even a minor fraction of Emotion , sentimental statements or any such thing like u stated "her taraf emotions hain... "regarding that ???

Aur bhai jan yeah jo "iss mulk ko abb sincere loogoon ka khoon chaiye jo shaaid iss mulk ki kismet badal day" asaay logon kee yeah species kahan saay layien gaay kiuon keah as stated by u "kioon kay woh jantaa hay kay iss qaum kay pass savaaiy emotions kay kuch bhi nahii hay...her taraf emotions hain" with due respect I realy wounder how u asume that this great nation and that excelent human species will rise jo keah "sab theek kaar daay gain and etcs ..........
as u ur self stated jiss say zahir to yeah he hota hai keah including me this whole nation is a group of goners a complete failure and so /so tu yeah sab kasaay mumken hoo gaa jab main khrab mera mulk khrab meray loog khrab sab khrab ???...
care to explain ur point of Exclence in ur own words ???
I do hope that u won't exclude ur self in the reply like u forgot putting and counting ur self along the same nation in ur last post prior to mine ........



paa-ba-gil sab hain rihaa-ie kii kare tadabiir kaun
dast-bastaa shahar mein khole merii zanjiir kaun

[rihaa_ii = freedom; tadabiir = solution/way]
[dast-bastaa = tied hands]

meraa sar haazir hai lekin meraa munsif dekh le
kar rahaa hai mere fard-e-jurm kii tahariir kaun

[munsif = judge; fard-e-jurm = tale of guilt]
[tahariir = writing]

aaj darvaazon pe dastak jaanii pahachaanii sii hai
aaj mere naam laytaa hai merii taaziir kaun

[taaziir = punishment]

niind jab Khvaabon se pyaarii ho to aise ahaid mein
Khvaab dekhe kaun aur Khvaabon ko de taabiir kaun

[ahaid = era/times]

ret abhii pichhale makaanon kii na vaapas aaii thii
phir lab-e-saahil gharaundaa kar gayaa taamiir kaun

[lab-e-saahil = on the shoreline; taamiir = construct]

saare rishte hijraton mein saath dete hain to phir
shahar se jaate hue hotaa hai daaman giir kaun

dushmanon ke saath mere dost bhii aazaad hain
dekhanaa hai khenchataa hai mujh pe pahalaa tiir kaun ...........
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Salmanja on 05 Oct 2008, 20:13

Assalam'o'aliekum wr wb!

Awara!! bro excellent peotry ma'sha'Allah :)

and @ dani bhai!!

hairat hy there is a lot of resembelnace in your writing with the writing of another brother on the forum who also have one thing common and that is to abuse "Molvissss" :)

mairay bhai kuch khas ho gya hy kya aap k sath??? aur yeah jo uper post kia hy yeah sub kya hy??? yaqeen kejeay aik matric k bachay ki ab yeah soch nai rahee jo hamaray ander so called "intellects: ki soch hy...so kya jwab dn maain aap ko!!!

anywayz I pray to Allah swt to guide us towards hidaya and gives us steadfastness on His deen make us a true Muslim instead of "acha insaan" and gives us glory with islam ameen

Wasalam

Salman Javaid
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Truth on 06 Oct 2008, 04:25

Daani wrote:iss mulk ko abb sincere loogoon ka khoon chaiye jo shaaid iss mulk ki kismet badal day....darr sirf yeh hai kay agar massom blood bhi iss mulk ko na badal saka to sab kuch baykaar hoo jaye ga........


bhai esi baat na kia karoo warna tumhee bhi loog Taliban Samjhnay lagay gay
Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan ko jantay hoo?? ajkal inko bhi loog Taliban Keh kar Terrorist boltay hain
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Naeem on 06 Oct 2008, 07:03

Well well well....I was away and since then a lot is going here in the forum........Salman is still optimistic, truth is yet to be revealed , awara is now on poetry and daani is aggressive ............

A mixture of many thoughts but still we have to find one common way....if only one man could change the fates then there was no need of a Supreme being......I am a nano particle of this world and am trying to convert my useless self into some useful living thing.....all of you..... are you trying the same or you are just living for the sake of life....


If the answer is yes then please define how are you doing so..........
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