PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

[mariam shah]

AWARA BHAI SUPERB POETRY, AANKHAIN KHOOL DAINAY WALI
VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!
AND NAEEM BHAI MAI NACHEEZ BHI KOSHISH TU KARTI REHTI HAI KAI APNI ZAAT SE KUCH BHALA KAR DAI
BUT THE VERY IMP POINT IZ THAT IF U CAN NOT DO ANY GOOD STILL IT IZ GOOD IF YOU DO NOT DO NAY BAD OR WRONG DOING
AGAR APP ACHA NAHI KAR SAKTAY TU BURA BHI NA KARAIN, ITS ALSO BETTER
LIKIN AGAR ALLAH NAY AP KO MUKA DIYA HAI KUCH BETTER KARNAY KA TU PLEASE NEVER WASTE IT, LATER U SURELY WILL REGERT IT!
APNI HASSIAT KAY MUTABIQ KUCH NA KUCH ZAROOR KARNA CHAHIYEE WARNA ZINDAGII SIRF JANWAROON WALI REH JATI HAI[ KHAYA , PIYA, OR SOO GAYE]
THIS IZ NOT LIFE
LIFE IS SOMETHING YOU FEEL IN EVERY LIMB
AND IN REAL LIFE WO HAI JO APP KO KUCH ACHA KAR KAY MILTI HAI!
GOT MY POINT!
MAY ALLH ALWAYS BE OUR GUIDE [AAMEN]

[Salmanja]

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!

Naeem bhai!! optimistic ...lolzzz well said!!!! but the matter of fact is that a Muslim should be optimistic in any circumstances, should always pray to Allah swt for the guidance and should also be humble and down to earth kind of person for the poeple around him... and the personal activity and effort can bring a change no doubt at personal levels...but we need to have a collective wisdom which may represent the true face of our society, our politics and our ecnonomy...and for that we need not only an effort on personal and individual level but smthing in a collective manner to bring out a change around us ... a change for which we all are waiting for and if that change doesnt show up in our lives, our children or their children may see that change and the results of these efforts carried out by us today!!!

and for those who say that many people come here just for time passing and for showing their intellect true to some extent but my brothers why don't you people carry out something and make some plans for the people of this Ummah and your nation!!!

Wasalam

Salman Javaid

[Daani]

@ Naeem

Aggressive....its a very small word...kioon kay apnii halat dekh kar to roona aataa hay......yahaan kay loog dunya kay sab say nirallay loog hain...jin ko yeh bhi nahiinn patta kay woh kia kar rahay hain aur kia chahtay hain......For example abhi chandd din pehlay iss forum main her jagaa Zaid Hamid Zaid Hamid ho raha tha kay woh buhat achhaa aadmi hay aur Brass talk kii kia baat hay...barra hi achaa program hay...wah jee wah....aur aaj dekh lain Zaid Hamid ko galiaan day rahay hain aur ussay kafir, kazzab , yahoodii pata nahii kia kia kah rahay hain......while every body was praisinf mr Zahid hamid I tried to explain that he is telling fiction in his own way........ but every body denied.......today all of you are against him.........this is the most goof nation of the world who is in a superiority complex that they are the best human beings of the world....pata nahii kahaan janaa hay kia karna hay...abhi aap chand dinoon main dekhiyee ga ka iss mulk kay her bank main emergency nafiz ho jayee gii....personal gold ko nationalize kar liya jeye ga because the economy of this country is dying........but as I said goofs dont care.

Yahaan koi gareeb nahii hay...sab ameer hainn...sabb ka pait bharra huwa hoota hay....... warna ab tak iss mulk main inqalab aa chukaa hootaa.....hum sab ko inqalab ka matlab hi nahii pataa aur na kabhi hum nay issay dekhaa hay...to bhaioo bass arram say khaooo, pioo, mauj karoo kioon kay iss mulk ko sanbhalnay kay liye ...Maulvii hain na....

[Salmanja]

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!

@Dani

O mairay bhai kun kun galian day raha hy Zaid Hamid ko?????????? and what did you write that he is telling the fiction..bravo man..a person telling the "fiction" with "factual support" what a genieus!!!!


secondly Awara asked you something and I ask the same question again to you!!

what do you really know about Islam and how much do you really know about Islam????

It is people like you who dicriminate and spread the chaos and anarchay in the society in the name of patriotism and your so called inqilaab and then at the end when you feel like that you have fullfilled the agenda of Kufars (and I stress on the word kuffars) you put all the blaims on "Molvisss"..you rightly said "aggressive" is not an appropriate word for people like you infact the word most suitable for you is "Ignorant" who doesnt think from his head but he follows blindly his masters!! and master of slaves never want them to realize the truth of something that breaks the system of Kufar...so go on my bro keep shouting against these "fanatic molvis" and uphold the banner of "inqilab"(another term introduced to us by kuffars) and the "molvis" will do the their work in'sha'Allah

waisay hairat hy in "molvion"(mujahdeen) nay her aik ko nuth dalee hoe hy, bush tu bush...bush ki idealogy ko follow krnay walay bhee ab cheekhna shuru ho gai hain....Allah in molivion ko salamat rakahay jo firo'ono k samnay gardano ko kutwana tu pasand krwa laitay hain magar jhukana pasand nai krtay

aay miaray dost main jhuka tu nai
maira sir bhee tu para hy mairee dastaar k sath

Wasalam

Salman Javaid

[Salmanja]

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!





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Wasalam

Salman Javaid

[faraz2008]

I am agree with Mr Decent.. Taliban are the true lovers of islam, Haramay Din me Sakhtia nahi hen haan Din naam hay Pabandi ka, Jo ke Afsoos hum pakistani din ko Badnam karahay hen, What is extremism? is ka matlab hay Jo Had se nikal jai,,, ab ap khud hi faisla karoo ke Allah ne joo ham pe hudood muqarar ki hen wo ham ne nahi tori? aur rozana toor rahay hen.. Hum media ke gulam hen, Jo koi bhi jaisa bhi jehan se bhi TV,NEWPAPERS me likh deta hay hum us pe Iman le aatay hen, Kya ALLAH PAK ne Quran me nahi kaha ke Yahoodi aur Eisai tumharay kabhi dost nahi hosaktay? to phir hum kyoo un ki Gulami me lagay hoay hen unhi ki boli bool rahay hen, Kabhi apnay garay ban me Jhanka hum ne ke hum Islam ke sath kya Mazak karrahay hen, Moderate islam kon sa Moderate islam, ISALAM wo hi hay jo aaj se 1400 sal pehlay aaya, us me na koi kami ki jasakyi hay nahi koi ziadti... Jo din pe chalta hay us ko hum Extremist ke detay hen, Apnay kartootoo pe nazar nahi hay hamari...

[Daani]

@ Salman

What I know about Islam.........Why on earth should I tell it to you??????? I think that either you are with Jamaat or with Tablighiss because its their style who have nothing else but their own structure of Islam.


Anyway abb to iss mulk ka economic drama samnay aa hi rahaa hay...buhat say poll khull rahay hain...buhat say secrets samnay aa rahay hain....lekin humain kia ....hum to bass Madni channel per baith kar Naataain pahain Hamdain gaaien...aur sub kay liye Jannat main ghar Bannaien....aur yeh zarrorri bhi hay kioonkay booohat jald bohat saarray loog waheen janay walay hain

[Salmanja]

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!

@ dani

Hmmm! bhai sb aap say yeah swal main nay he nai aik bhai nay pehlay bhee poocha tha aur ic leay poch rahay hain cuz aap ma'sha'Allah kafee "Fatway" jhar rahay hain Islam k baray main ic leay...zara hamain bhee tu pata chalay na k aap ma'sha'Allah kitna Islam k baray main jantay hain taa k aap ki baat ki reliabitlity ko dhaikh sakain...ankhain bnd kr k kaam krna aur follow krna Alhamdolilah hamara tareeqa nai hy

Rahee baat yeah k main jamtia hn ya Tableeghee lolzzz ...main jamatia bhee hn aur tableeghee bhee hn alhamdolilah magar woh wala nai jo aap samjhtay hain...kun sa wala yeah phir kabhee sahee..sar-e-daust aap yeah btain k kitnay secrets khul gain hain jnab??? aur obviously its the time to collasp of these false systems in'sha'Allah...baqee kabhee ghar say bahir nikal kr aur rooti pani k maslay masail say bala ter ho kr socheay bohat see baton ka hul samnay nazar aai ga in'sha'Allah...
Aap un molvion k baray main tu theek hain jo sirf madni channel per bhait kr natain parhtay rehtay hain magar Allah k banday kabhee ja kr un say bhee mileay jo kuch kaam kr rahay hain ya phir hum nay bhee aik wateera bna lia hoa hy bush ki tarah k tama masail ka zimaydar yeah molvi hy????!!!!

baqee ksi per bila zarorat ilzam laga daina "bohtan"k zumray main ataa agar bhai sb ko thora sa knowledge ho islam ka tu..tu mairay bhai zara aap btana pasand farmain gain k kharabee ka zimaydar kun hy????bajai ic k kharabi kharabi chilatay rahain...us kharabi ka hul batain...aur janat main tu in'sha'Allah bohat say loog jain gain magar in cheezon ka mazaq urana aur in ko tanzia andaz main bayan krna kin ka kaam hy???ic baray main readers khud he faisla kr lain..
baqee rahee k kya ho raha hy I can challange you k aap jnab nay yeah thread poori nai parhee for sure warna shaid aap kuch bhee ksi per bhee comment krnay say pehlay 10 dafa sochtay...I'm not takin it personally but you are actually abusing everyone and you are angry with everyone....cool down bro..yeah tareeqa na tu aik muslman ka ho sakta hy na aik mature banday ka k woh sirf chilata he rahay...ponder over it

Wasalam

Salman javaid

[Awaragypsy]

Aslam O Alikum all .....



@ Naeem Bhai ......" I was away and since then a lot is going here in the forum........Salman is still optimistic, truth is yet to be revealed , awara is now on poetry and daani is aggressive "

not to worry bro @Naeem that u were away i went away for some time my self but some how this way or that way i have been very closely monitoring few topics specialy this one ...........
any ways my turning towards poetry never means that iam getting derailed or out of focus on contrary if bro u concentrate on the words they were very clear and they were an answer to My another brother's written Article here on the topic ........anyways ...


@ Thanks @ salman Javeed & Mariam shah for understanding the words .....



Now not imposing any aligations , anyhow lets talk My dear brother @ Dani this is not to show any cricisim ,self centerism or any back ups or so called piety or the words of sentiment but truley to explain to u my brother @ Dani the points u simply forget and tend to neglect ...as u said " Maulvii hain na " Maulvii honaa aik bohaat baraa rutbaa hota hai , u know or have even a slighest idea about the level of knowledge and wisdome behind this so easily spoken word Maulvii , Haar beared faced insan Maulvii naheen hota warnaa hamray nieghbours main bohtaat hai beareded logoon kee !!! aur un main saay kafi loog after 9/11 kaay incident kaay forigein countries main maray bhi giaay thaay magar meraay bahi unheen Maulvi naheen kaha jataa, kiuoon ??? Think about that ......aurfaay aam joo yeah Maulvii Maulvii kaha jataa hai issaay sumjhany kee aur soochnaay kee zarrorat hai we are defaming some thing which has an high stature and happens to be a Quality among Muslims we are promoting anti to that and doing that with our high tone and full mouth ,outspoken words ,STOP doing so ....


lets come to another of comment written by u dear bro @ Dani as " What I know about Islam.........Why on earth should I tell it to you??????? I think that either you are with Jamaat or with Tablighiss because its their style who have nothing else but their own structure of Islam.""

Achaa jee bhai jan @ Dani main nain app saay pehlay bhi request kee the keah jenaab Islam ko kitnaa jantaay hain yaa how much do u know about Islam , iss request ko @ salman Javeed nain bhi appnaay ilfaaz main app saay kia , Reason was so simple that when u speak and say ur mind out we can understand excatly to which school of thought u my brother belong so we me @ Awaragypsy ,or may be @ salman javeed and others can easily come to conclusion and reply accordingly .Beharhal religion main mojood akayiad har individual kaay apnaay hoo saktay hain magar Religion as a whole remains an collective effort ,batoon koo clearly app taak aur dosoroon taak phonchana srif mera haq naheen hai balkay mera faraz hai and it goes the same for all Muslim Umaah .........

Jamaat or Tabligihess jinheen kaha jata hai aur joo kuch un kaay sath munsalik kia jata hai specificlay "Tabligh" wooh sirf un taak mehdood naheen hai dawah har Musalman har Muslim par faraz hai till the last day of judgment so inn say munsalik hoona is not a sin rather is a safe passage towards akahraah .......

As once Dr zakir Niak said in his speeches {it may have some difference of context because i being a human must have the margin to err } and i put it like this " To be fundamentalist as the world portrays and pronounces Islam and Muslims , fundamentelists , extremists is rather a word of honour then to feel ashamed of , and as for the term Fundamentalism refers to a "deep and totalistic commitment" to a belief in, and strict adherence to a set of basic principles (often religious in nature), a reaction to perceived doctrinal compromises with modern social and political life.

The term fundamentalism was originally coined to describe a narrowly defined set of beliefs that developed into a movement within the Protestant community of the United States in the early part of the 20th century, and that had its roots in the Fundamentalist-Modernist Controversy of that time. Until 1950, there was no entry for fundamentalism in the Oxford English Dictionary, the derivative fundamentalist was added only in its second 1989 edition.More over ......
The term fundamentalist has since been generalized to mean strong adherence to any set of beliefs in the face of criticism or unpopularity, but has by and large retained religious connotations.The collective use of the term fundamentalist to describe non-Christian movements has offended some Christians who desire to retain the original definition.

So who wouldnot like this term worldly known as Fundamentalism which refers to a "deep and totalistic commitment" to a belief in, and strict adherence to a set of basic principles (often religious in nature)Which indeed for Muslims is now given with out consent of its origin and context with promoting negative propagations ..........

Hope to recive some usefull and fact full Reply ..............


MAY ALLAH SWT guide us all and his mercy on all , Ameen ................

[Daani]

Array bhai jee main aap sab loogoon ko sirf yeh keh rahaa hoon kay yeh joo bhi hoo rahhaaa hay yeh sub eik game hay jee aur iss main koi bhee chahay woh taliban hoon america ho ya pakistani forces hoon unn sabb ka kissi mazhab islam chritinaity say koi wastaa nahiin hay...yeh sab power ki game hay aur aam awwaam ka lahoo sarkoon per uchaalll rahaa hay. Taliban agar itnay hi achay bachay hain to jaein aur ja kar Saudis aur doosri kingdoms say hissab poochain...unnn naam nihaad sattay bazzonn ko marrein jo oil ki price apni marzii say kam ziaada kar daytay hainn...

Pakistani qaum pehlay massom thi ab yeh bawaqoof ho gai hay....aur baywaqoofii abb jahalat main badal rahii hay.....balkay kai jagah to badal chukki hay...yahan her koi mazhab ka scholar hay.......yeh qabroon per jaa kar madad mangtay hain....aur jo zindaa hain unn ki kissi ko parwah nahii....Haji Sahib raat main naatein parhtay hain aur din main lal mirchoon ki borri main bricks ka burada milatay hain.....iss saal bhi kai haji sahib alhamdo lillah haj karnay jaien gay...alhaaj ban jaien gay......eik eik haji taqreeban teen lakh rupees say ziada kharch kar day ga.........aur idhar kai larkiaan paisay na hoonay ki wajah say kunwari reh jaein gi......kai boorhay ghar kay bayghair khullii sarak per sooein gay....kai bachay school nahinn ja sakaaein gay....kaie patients paisay na hoonay ki wajah say mar jaien gay.........iss saal karrorrooon dollars ka hajj phir hooga aur khadmain hermain shrifaain aur ammeerr ho jaein gay........allah unn ko jannnat day...unn say to Allah Taala nay khushalii ka waada kia huwaa hay...humara kia hay...hum sub to keerayy hain....zinda hain to kia....mar jaein to kia.......aap sab lloog bass abbb qurbani ki tiarrii karein...gosht kaheinnn ...mast raheinn...Allah ajarr day gay...Insha Allah.