Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby aamir81 on 16 Aug 2008, 11:22

Its very simple, Taliban ko america paisay de raha hai duniya mein (Mainly in Muslim Countries) terrorism kerne ke liye take america apni states barhata rahe. Sub se pehlay to Taliban ko maro, phir sare politicians ko.

Phir shayad Pakistan ko hum Apna Pakistan bana sakein.
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby iloveislam on 17 Aug 2008, 10:39

Salam!
jahad zaroori hai..........un logo k khilaaf jo shariat nafiz kurnay mein rukawat hain ......lekin is doraan agar koi begunah murta bhi hai to wo shaheed hai.Dushmun line mei nahi khaday hotay k unko maara jai aur baaki sub buch jain.mussulmaan ka muqsud duniya ki zindigi nahi aur na hi iski kamyaabi duniya ki kamyaabi mein hai.
hum ne to murna hai aur ussi waqt murna jub humara waqt likha hai aur ussi tarha murna hai jo taqdeer likh di gai.hum usko nahi budul saktay.
jiska is pe uqeen ho wo chahe suicide bomb se muray ya bister pe muray.na usko koi dukh hona chahye na aapko aur mujhe kion k ye uski taqdeer thi.
kia jisko suicide bomb se bucha lia uski zindigi budh jaigi????????????is liay ye jo innocent people murnay waali baat hai samajh mei nahi aati..
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby Salmanja on 17 Aug 2008, 12:14

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!

I dont agree with the idea of Jiha with in any of the islamic state...its like fullfilling the agenda of Kufars with the hands of Muslims; this thread is a perfect example of success of our enemies' agenda(just look at the post once again)....look how are we arguing with out solid reasoning and thus forgetting the real enemy in the scence!!!

I agree with most of the points raised by bro Atif...rest those brothers who love Jihad...i have an advice that they should not be aggressive in their nature and writing...so that they may communicate what they want to....Jihad is Fraz(its an obligation on every muslim)!! and modren time demands this that we should be stand united and have an offensive policy of Jihad against our enemies....

We should also try to expose these local Talibans!!(as a matter of fact real Taliban disown these local insurgents in their statments)....

Pictures posted by bro Atif is truely a propoganda!! for refrence we may recall the interview of Sh.Saeed in our minds;telecasted on GEO in which he denied of such attacks on Muslims and Civilians(sh.Saeed is # 3 in the al-Qiada Hierarchy)....

As for the media which is propogating against the Jihad and Mujahdeen I have an ayah from Quran:

O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done (Surah-Al-Hujrat,verse # 6)

So we should know that this media is a weapon, a tool of Kufar to demoralize and isolate muslims, in the name of Terrorism....and kufars no doubt have a wicked nature for Islam and Muslims....
So all those, who believe in newspapers working under the influence of Yellow journalism and channels working under the policies of Goverment and Kufars....do they have any relaiable resources other than this media from where they may cross check the info provided by this mass medai if yes they should tell us the realiabilty of these resources and if the answer is no then why are they blaiming Taliban??(and when I say Taliban, it means those Talibans who real Jihadis fighting against the Kufars in certain areas and not in the muslim lands)plus if they dont have any reliable sources of cross checking then it means they are believing in what the Kufars are injecting in their minds through their very effective tool of media and education system....

As far as Jihad is concerned, we should not post our definations of Jihad... it is the top most duty and the most honourable and holy duty of all...
There is a Hadith in the Kitab-ul-Jihad in Sahih-Al-Bukhari:
"The Peak of Islam is Jihad in the way of Allah swt"

Its the Peak of Islam, the roof of Islamic building... The sword of Jihad is something of which Kufars are afraid of...This sword is unsheated now (Alhamdolilah) and therefore all the propoganda machinary of Kufars is after this one word "Jihad"..Ponder over it!!

As for being terrorist for Kufars; yes we are terrorrist and by no means we can deny that and by no means we can prove our innocense to Kufars....

Allah swt Says in Quran:
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.(Surah Al-Anfal, Verse # 60)

This is the order of Allah swt to strike terror in their hearts by the sword of Jihad....It has great results in the short run as well as in the long run...but alas! we turn our backs towards the quran and thus forgetting what Allah swt ordained for us to be prosper in this world....

We don't even know why are we in this world and trying to live our lives like Kufars and trying to embrace their systems...and when someone takes stand for islam...everybody blaim him or her of being rigid,extremist blah blah!!! in actual they are trying to cover their sins and certains shortcomings in their personality...this is what happened when west started a campaing against our beloved Prophet saw under this same Psychological pressure..

There is alot of things going in my mind right now...after reading this thread I feel sad of being so apologatic for certain matters of islam..I feel sad that our real enemy is sitting in its palaces and planning the plots against Islam and Islamian and we the Islamian are busy in quarrelling and arguing with each other... buzi in a "blame game", throwing garbage on one another, using harsh words for one another and thus proving that how decent we are of being muslims....
Allah o Akbar! islam teaches us aggression but it also teaches where to use it!!!
May Allah swt guides us all!! may He show us the true path of Islam and make us steadfast on it...
May Allah swt chose us for islam and grant us Shahadah for His sake...(Ameen)

Al-Azmat-o-Lilah wal Fath-o-lil-Islam

Wasalam

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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby iloveislam on 17 Aug 2008, 13:43

U agreed with everything..besides jihad in an islamic state.wat if the muslim state is working on kuffar agenda????/should we not fight against them??is that wat u r saying?
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby atif.ahmed on 17 Aug 2008, 22:43

Salman Bhai,

I fully agree with all of you that "Jihad is not an Option, its an Obligation on every Muslim" But does it only means "Suicide Bombings"???

Regarding the Picture i have mentioned in my next post that i don't believe on such media reports but i had to make "Decent" realize about the Media..........He use to give me so many references of BBC urdu. Trust me he is also a brother to me but on certain point maybe he is wrong.

The Media is the only source every enemy of Islam & Pakistan is using to keep us stucked in such bad situations. All the media is funded by US & Jewish. How can we trust on it..........Then i prefer to believe on what i see, what mind can accept...........

Now our youth is Mashallah quite sensible & educated, we can easily understand the realities if we want..........it is not that easy for our Politicians to make us fool like it used to be. I really appreciate Mr. Zaid Hamid kind of peoples who are still showing the other side of picture to us.....May Allah swt bless him & keep him honest & sincere.

At this moment my only concern us how can we change the current system, which is giving negative attitude to everyone.........

I just came back from graveyard, the vehicle were not allowed inside but one motor bike guy was still trying to enter & when the COP has tried to stop him, he simple abused a COP. We should understand what is Right & Wrong............this is just a very small example.

When i say i want to change this system for coming generation, people think that he is a stupid guy who talk only stupid thing. I am not enough alone to do anything, i need my other brothers & sister also to think and come out to do something.

Just think all about what i wrote & please point out if i am wrong.

I really feel very bad when i don't see any kind of positive response.....but i will keep on trying just to perform at least my duty..........Inshallah Allah swt will help me to save my Pakistan.
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby Decent on 18 Aug 2008, 03:37

Huzoor S.A.W. ka Irshad hai kay Jihad Qiyamat tak jari raheega or meri ummat me 1 jamat esi hogi jo musalsal jihad karti raheegi
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby Salmanja on 18 Aug 2008, 04:48

Assalam'o'Aliekum wr wb!

@ Atif Bhai!
I agree word to word with you brother and I didnt criticize your efforts but the matter of fact is that "Suicide Bombing" is not a tool of Islamic Jihadic Perspective...for this there are many writings and Fatawa of those scholars who are practicaly engaged in the Jihad going around in the world(alhamdolilah) and I will try to post as many as of them on this or in any other post so that we may come to know that those who use this tool as a Jihadic Weapon are actually damaging the cause of Jihad and Alhamdolilah suma Alhamdolilah,Mujahdeen knows very well the difference between a "Fidai activity" and a "Sucicide bombing" and Mujahdeen also very well knows that who is actually behind all the insurgency in Muslim countries in general and In Pakistan in Particular!!!
The only thing what I wanted to mention that when we know that our enemy is trying to destabalize this base of Jihad that is Pakistan and for this they've engaged all the think tanks to work over it then we must understand and stand with the Mujahdeen who are a wall between us and our enemy and not just criticize them...rest the Local insurgents...in the name of Taliban and Mujahdeen...I've first hand info who are they in reality and for whome they are working(alhamdolilah)...and Mujahdeen clearly shows their "Bara" from such elements....
Rest may Allah swt makes us steadfast on this path and grants us Shahadah!!

@ Decent!
mairay p[ayare Bhai! you quote ayahs and Ahadess in refrence which is surely the most honorable and just method to clear the illussions of one's mind but I advice you being an elder brother that if you love Mujahdeen and if you want to do something for Jihad and Islam then be patient; Jihad is not path for short-tempered people...its a long war and Islam needs youth like you to be its soldiers in'sha'Allah; so be patient my brother and be steadfast so that if you may argue with someone...you may able to clear your point and pararell to that you may able to communicate your message in an effective method..nothing offensive... ;)

@ Iloveislam!

Yes brother I mean that and for that I have solid grounds; not only as per Sharia but also as per geo-political scenario and our Sharia guides us as to where to put our efforts in an effective matter; sharia never allows to throw your energies and lose your strength; as far as the agenda of Kufar is concerned then its a long debate that who is actually fullfilling the agenda of Kufar...People in Goverments are merely the pupits if you elimnate one other will replace it...there fore Allah swt tells us a rule in Quran:
"And fight with the Imams of Kufar"(Surah At-Taubah)
They are the real cause of every consipiracy against Islam and Muslims; they are the one who enter their agents in our rows; they are the one who were sitting in their palaces and were enjoying the fight between muslims; but now alhamdolilah their enjoyable days are over...Mujahdeen knows their target very well and they are marching towards it very effectively that is Khilafa(in'sha'Allah) and the results are always in the hands of Allah swt....
Those who pass fatwa of fighting in the muslims lands against the Muslims or Munafiqs..they have nothing from sharia but the tool of "Taveel" and the rules of Fatawa doesnt allow any of the scholar to use "Taveel" to pass on a fatwa; upon which muslim masses have to act upon and due to which a major change may come into muslimc societies therefore even "Shahaba (R.a)" never gave any fatwa unless they refer the matter to the most learnered Shahaba to cater the matter; but today I'm sorry to say every graduate from a Madrasah writes some book on islamic shariah got famous in some days and then got frustrated from the tests of Allah swt pass on a fatwa and thus fullfill the agenda of our enemies...Allah o AKbar!! is this matter is as simple as it seems to be????

My brother! our enemy had worked on islam and islamic methodolgy and Theology for centuries; they know very well from where to exploit the scholars and masses; they did it in the history and they are trying to do it again...but this is now the time of back paddling in'sha'Allah...they have their plans and Allah swt has its own plans and He is the best of the Planners...

for this issue I request you to give me time in person and I will in'sha'Allah try to solve the matter with the help of Allah swt and May Allah swt gudies us and makes us steadfast on His deen and grants us Shahadah in his way!(Ameen)


Alazmat-o-Lilah wal Fath-o-lil-Islam

and if any brother gets hurt by my writing I'm apologizing in advance for that... ;)

Ma'Salam

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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby iloveislam on 18 Aug 2008, 16:45

Allah pak humari rehnumai farmain.......aameen

i still think k aik waqt intizaar ka hota hai aur aik amal ka....is waqt wait n see ka kaam nahi.abhi halat e jung hai.either we r with the ones who want islam to rule or we r not..there is nothing in between.siwai apnay apko faraib dainay k.

May Allah guide us......
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby atif.ahmed on 18 Aug 2008, 20:02

May Allah swt bless all of us.........Ameen

We (Pakistan) is in big crisis.........
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Re: Zarb-e-Momin Terrorist Newspaper should be ban

Postby Awaragypsy on 18 Aug 2008, 23:53

Aslam O ALikum all ........

"There are four sorts of men:
He who knows not ,and knows not ,he knows not : he is a fool - shun him;
He who knows not ,and knows he knows not : he is simple - teach him;
He who knows ,and knows not he knows : he is asleep - wake him;
He who knows ,and knows he knows : he is wise - follow him."
.......An Arabian Proverb (Lady Burton, 1890)

I already siad its the wrong preception total wrong presentation and targeted viewer ship ........The ways how the world see's things I was not just shooked but was not left with any other option to lime light this type of issue to all Muslim world see how International propagation helps lure things and lack of knowledge as well as unavailibility and scholary approach of True Mulims is laging way behind

Wake up guys opne ur eyes WITH THOUSANDS OF APPOLOGy , THIS IS NOTHING MORE THEN A WRONG PROPOGATION ,do have a over look at www. Al islam.org ,They are promoting Qadiyani's kissi nain ban karana hai tu inheen karaoo ,aur asi sites koo jo inheen promote kartiee hain .........


Not just a condem-able act but needs a proper follow up i request all users please take this seriously world considers them as Muslims ........


"""The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a religious organization, international in its scope, with branches in over 189 countries in Africa, North America, South America, Asia, Australia, and Europe. This is the most dynamic denomination of Islam in modern history, with worldwide membership exceeding tens of millions.

The Ahmadiyya Community was established in 1889 by ( Na-Auzabilaah )Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) in a small and remote village, Qadian, in the Punjab, India. He claimed to be the expected reformer of the latter days, the Awaited One of the world community of religions (The Mahdi and Messiah). The Community he started is an embodiment of the benevolent message of Islam -- peace, universal brotherhood, and submission to the Will of God -- in its pristine purity. Hadhrat Ahmad proclaimed Islam as the religion of man: "The religion of the people of the right path" (98:6)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the founder of the Ahmadiyya movement. He declared that he was the “Promised One” of all religions, fulfilling the messianic prophecies found in world religions. He stated that his claims to being several messiahs converging into one person were the symbolic, rather than literal, fulfillment of the messianic and eschatological prophecies found in the literature of the major religions(NauzaBilallah) .The motto of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is “Love for All Hatred for None”.

With this conviction, the Ahmadiyya Community, within a century, has reached the corners of the Earth. Wherever the Community is established, it endeavors to exert a constructive influence of Islam through social projects, educational institutes, health services, Islamic publications and construction of mosques, despite being bitterly persecuted in some countries. Ahmadi Muslims have earned the distinction of being a law-abiding, peaceful, persevering and benevolent community.

The Community offers a clear presentation of Islamic wisdom, philosophy, morals and spirituality as derived from the Holy Qur'an and the practice (Sunnah) of the Holy Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Some Ahmadis', like late Sir Muhammad Zafrulla Khan (who served as the first Foreign Minister of Pakistan; President of the 17th General Assembly of U.N.O.; President and Judge of the International Court of Justice, at the Hague), and Dr. Abdus Salam (the Nobel Laureate in Physics in 1979), have also been recognized by the world community for their outstanding services and achievements.


Facts about (Qadianiat or Ahmadiyat )

Selective Martial law was declared over Lahore in 1953 by the Pakistan Armed Forces, in response to civil unrest following anti-Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement agitations. Then-captain Rahimuddin Khan (later General and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee) was part of the military deployment heading the army takeover of Lahore, culminating in the arrest of Maulana Maududi, who was considered the principal agitator behind the riots
.

In 1973,Maulana Maududi condemned them as heretics in his book, Qadiani Problem (Qadiani is a derogatory term for Ahmadiyya).Confident of state support, the Jamaat-e-Islami contested the 1970 elections in Pakistan. Thereafter, Jamaat started a widespread anti-Ahmadiyya movement in Pakistan In 1973.This anti-Ahmadiyya movement led Pakistani prime minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to declare Ahmadis as constitutionally "non-Muslims".

In 1984, the Government of Pakistan, under General Zia-ul-Haq, passed Ordinance ,which banned proselytizing by Ahmadis and also banned Ahmadis from identifying themselves as Muslims. According to this ordinance, any Ahmadi who refers to himself as a Muslim by either spoken or written word, or by visible representation, directly or indirectly, or makes the call for prayer as other Muslims do, is punishable by imprisonment of up to 3 years. Mirza Tahir Ahmad ran and moved the headquarters to London, UK.

By a unanimous decision of the elected representatives of the supreme law-making body of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the Constitution of 1973 was amended by the Constitution (Second Amendment ) Act, 1974 (Act XLIX of 1974) to amend Article 106 and Article 260 thereof. Clause (3) was added to Article 260 to declare those persons as non-Muslims who do not believe in the “absolute and unqualified finality of Prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon Him) or claims to be a Prophet in any sense of the word or of any
description whatsoever, after Muhammad (PBUH) or recognizes such a claimant as a Prophet or a Religious Reformer". The Qadianis of the two groups are interalia covered by this definition and they were thus declared non-Muslims.
Article 106 dealt with the constitution of Provincial Assemblies which specified the number of Members to be elected for the Assemblies, their qualifications and also the additional seats in those Assemblies reserved for non-Muslims i.e. Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and Parse communities. To these communities were added by the Second Constitutional Amendment of 1974 “persons of the Qadiani Group or the Lahori Group (Who call themselves Ahmadi).” Thus effect of Article 106 was given by declaration made in Sub Article 3 of Article 260 and Ahmadis of either persuasion were placed in juxtaposition with other minorities.
The Constitutional Amendment of 7 September 1974 exposed religious and political aspects of Qadianiyat. Muslims of the world realized that it was an underground political organization having links with Imperialism which motivates and utilizes it for its evil designs. Its religious grab is only a cover to play a destructive game. Under the benign patronage of the British Government, it played a destructive and anti-Islamic role to undermine the integrity of the Muslim world.



Do read this Anti Qadiani Ordinance of 1984 by (Dr. Syed Rashid Ali) by the topic "Pakistani Constitution and Qadianis" or visit " www.alhafeez.org/rashid/constipak1" this truely reveals alot of historical background It seems that Bhutto had a softcorner for Qadianis in his heart, even if his statement is interpreted as mere politics. and why Gen Zia ul haq was a goner .......


After reading such articles which have a prime position on the internet do we all consider that Muslims are going in a possitive and clear dirrection ........
I request Any Ahmadiyya around show me a single scripture saying Mirza Ahmed was a divine destined personality , Islam is not about communities or minor fractions Its for the whole Humanity ,and its a universal truth , mind that ......
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