PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 16 Oct 2008, 12:58

@ Salman..........the only majority task jo iss qaum ka hay woh hay kahillii........ajeeb baat hay kay kissi kay pass waqt naheen aur sub farigh hain.......waisay Salman Saheb shukar hay kay 2008 main iss qaum ko abb bigger tasks yaad aa gayee hain.....aap kay khiaall main kia yeh sub bohat jaldi naheen huwaa...ab itni bhi kia jaldi parri hay bhai...koi saat aath soo saal aur intizaar kar lay tay phir koi policy ya plan bana laytaay.....aaj ki generation ko khamkhwaah hi tang karnay ka kia faiidaa...adhi quam free sms aur 2 ruppees ghantaa per mobile mobile main busy baqi adhii naat khawaanoon per note luttaa rahi hay...ghareeb ko mazaroon waighaira per khana mill jata hay.......students ka future nazar nahii aataa...politicians baycharooon kay pass arboon akathay karnay ki wajah say time nahii hay.......Taliban abhi gardanain katnain main masroof hain....to bhai jee yeh sab busy loog hain...aap say guzarish hay kay inn ko tang matt karein...shukria
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Awaragypsy on 16 Oct 2008, 19:52

Aslam O ALikum all .......



@ Salman Javeed ...... Right words and quite right about the term that such people need suuport to establish Islamic economic system in and with full throtle ........


ANy ways with appology @ Dani one of the lame-st answers and replies i ever read yaar , ALLAH kaa naam laay bhai , I asked u balkaaay practicaly urged u dear Brother if u have any solutions or way out which could be worked out then speak up magar afsooss saaad afsoss meraay bhai app naah sirf unable to reply to that insteads u reply a far disapointing article ....... iss saay kia prove karnaa chahataay hain app @ Dani ???

For a change why donnt u me and all do this practice insteads of blaming and finding the accused we find some way out , do atleast the little part which we can do for our selves ........


I belive u and all can understand this aticle in its full context .........


What is a human being? An animated body? A mind? Where can we place the limit on who we are? Our emotional, mental, and spiritual self cannot be contained within our physical form. Rather, it extends into the world around us, an enormous field of forces which reaches out to the sun and stars and all of us abide by and to the laws seatled by the one power majestic above all . We in turn exist within the invisible portions of the stars and planets, as well as in those of the earth's various families. The cosmos is a webwork of these interpenetrating lives, and truly, as the poet says, "thou canst not stir a flower without troubling of a star."

If all nature is so intimately linked, how close must our relationship be with our fellowmen of any creed they be . Far from regarding the rest of humanity as distant cousins, or even children of one divinity, brotherhood is the complete interdependence of each with all. There is a constant intermingling of our individual consciousnesses with that of the rest of mankind for, just as we share the same physical environment, we also share the psychological and spiritual environment , Islam is preaching us the mutual brother hood .Our thoughts and feelings are not conditions of matter or mere abstractions, they are real -- living energies that endure, circulating through the corresponding aspects of the earth's being and affecting the mentality of others. As the focus of these psychological and spiritual energies, a person is something like a radio station, transmitting and receiving worldwide the thoughts and feelings which correspond to the "frequency" he tunes himself to at any time. We are constantly attracting thoughts and feelings and impressing our mental energies upon them. When a thought enters our consciousness, we may improve or degrade it, or leave it unchanged. Again, we may ignore it or, through concentration, energize it so it is easier for others on a similar wavelength to attract it to themselves. Thus we each unconsciously help shape the thought-reservoir on which all draw.
In fact, the acts of our consciousness are as real as any other aspect of us, and have consequences that are inevitably shared by great numbers of people. When we feel or think or do something, we usually feel the results belong to us in some exclusive way: that it is "my business," "my problem," "my credit," "my karma." But every act, thought, feeling, or aspiration has potential consequences for our fellowmen all over the globe, now and for ages to come. Our consciousness is much more extensive than our bodies and accessible to the whole of mankind, so that our mental, emotional, and spiritual activity actually has a far wider influence than our visible outer activities. Further, its influence is heavily colored by motive and attitude, factors which we are apt to dismiss as intangible. This reflects our refusal to recognize the reality of what we cannot trace with our physical senses, even though the psychological world we share with the rest of humanity is the main sphere of human activity.
Our responsibility, then, goes beyond how we seem to how we are. Living an upright life is not a question of "keeping up appearances" or conforming outwardly to society's dicta, but hinges upon the thoughts and feelings that we gather to us, our aspirations and desires, and the motives that underlie our actions. The very structure of each human being and of the world we inhabit makes it impossible to isolate ourselves or limit the range of our influence. We share, willy-nilly, the elements that form our inner life even if no one else knows of them. Because we tend to focus our personal consciousness on our most limited aspects, we usually fail to realize our oneness or to live accordingly. But occasionally, as when on a starry night the vastness of space draws us out of our everyday consciousness, we sense momentarily an echo within us of that incomprehensible vastness, an intuition that we are connected to all of nature in the most fundamental way. As we consciously try to bring ourselves into greater harmony with the whole which we help form, this awareness will grow ever stronger until it becomes the moving force behind our daily lives. Then we will be fulfilling the true responsibility of being human , A true Muslim and as a Pakistani or what ever the nationality remains ......
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 17 Oct 2008, 09:00

@ Awara


Nahiiin bhai jee...bass intellectualism abb nahii...iss forum main bohat intellectual hain...ab aur nahiii.......

Yeh ird gird kia ho raha hay...kia aap daiktay nahii yah dekhna chahtay nahii......Janaab jiss mulk main saaloon say koi policy naa hoo, koi check and balance ka system na hoo, apnay rights ki awareness na hooo, jahan har baat Allah ki marzii per choorrr di jaye, jahan taleem ka nizaam fazool ho, jahan health ka nizaam fazool ho, jahan eik eik ghar main 8 say 10 bachay hoon, jahan nayee industry na lagay, jahan nayee agricultural reforms na hoon, jo doossroo kay ghulam hoon, jo amrikaa say maddad mangein aur phir unn ko galiaan bhi dain, jahan sara pasia sara budget sirf fauj kay liye ho, jahan kay loogoon ki sooch sirf Haji bannany ki hoo, jahan corruption kissi daladal ki tarah nizaam ko nigall rahii hoo, jahan media sirf paisay kamanay ka zirriaa ho, jahan eik aadmi doosray ko kafir keh ker uss ka sir kaat raha ho, jahan loog apanay aap ko Allah ki superior tareen makhlooq samjhein, jahan maulvi saaari raat uss Allah ki ibadat karein jo unn kay dill main hi nahee, jahan ulema apnay aap ko waqt ka raja samjhein, jahan raat ko daku eik mobile per jaan lay lein, jahan safai ka ko nizaam na hoo, jahan sewrage ki koi policy na hoo, jahan mazhab ki shakaal bigaar kar mazhab ka bayra gharq kar dia jaye....jahan murday zindoon say ziaada sakoon main hoon wahan Rehmat nahii hootti...whahn Barkat nahii hooti...wahan qismat nahi khulti...wahan jiddat nahii aatii.....bass main aur aapp hootay hain.....khalii damagh.........sooch say paray...apnay mustaqbill say door....bass loadshedding main baithay ...andhairay kay musafir........
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Truth on 17 Oct 2008, 09:27

@ Dani
solution batao iska ..tareeqa bataoo kese sahi hoga ye sab? kia tum sahi kar saktay hoo plz tell??
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Daani on 17 Oct 2008, 12:49

@ truth...........daykho...parhooo aur samjhoo..........idhaar aaj hi ki khabar hay kay Pakistani ULEMA hazraat nay farmayaa hay

MUSLAMMAN GHAIBII MADAD KA INTIZARR KAREIN.................how sweet
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Truth on 18 Oct 2008, 06:50

@ Dani

janab mene apsay solution pocha tha kay hume kia karna hai kia tareeqa me ikhtiyaar karoo ga kay ham chaina kay barabar kharay ho jaeen
ap batao apkay pas itni power hai? kay ap pakistan ka future sahi kar sakoo?? agar hai to batao kia tareeqa apnaya jaee?

(Plz ye mat kehna kay pehle khud apne ap ko dekho apne ghar ko gali ko or apnay muhallay kay road ko saaf karoo plzz)
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Awaragypsy on 18 Oct 2008, 20:25

ASlam O ALikum all ......



Its really shame full paar i am left with no action then to laugh at ur condition @ Dani ...... And belive me after reading both of ur posts iam lauging out loud no wonder i was excepting the same ,atleast from a person of high caliber like you , Oooh my lord wat a man u are , u just simply slip out and manage to exclude ur self from almost every scenario wat kind of snikers u use ??? , my my u simply dont even own ur self , aur saab saay ziada afsoos meraay bhai @ dani yeah hai keah jaab app jasaay Aaqil aur baligh insan assi baay wookaat bateein likthy hain aur un paar mosalsaal likthay hee chalaay jatay hain , kia app jeenab nain words naheen parhaay jin main lika hai keah Bhai jan @ dani agar app jeenab kaay paas haal moojood hai tu wooh batiean ??? doosron kooo pin point kar kaay app nain kafi farz adaa kar lia hai aur apni aaalaaa zarfi kee kafi misaal qiaam kaar lee hai ,yeah tanzoo mazah kaay liaay froum naheen baniyaa giaa thaa and agar app kaay pass koiee hall mojod hai then fine warna roonay kaa koiee fiada naheen meray bhai app jeenab kee har post main haad dargaay kee so called sentiments and emotions which u ur self siad mojood hotay hain ...........

Got any Solutions suggestions then say So ............

Aik cheez aur intelectualism jo app sumjhtay hain , woooh hoo naah hoo par atleast articles do contain some message and they do provide some sense of dirrection ,and what u wright mostly on contrary is some what objections and objections .....nothing more to that come on yaar @ dani u can do far better with that brain resting in ur skull and those pack of words complie them and unite ur self provoke ur integrity meraay bhai to do some thing use full with a cause ..........

sorrY @ Dani i have to use this line , agaar ap jeenab koo intelectualism saay itni hee nafraat hai tu naah topic study kareen mohtraam ,no body has ever forced any one to stick around .......and i never claimed any intelectualism on my grounds and ALhumdulil'ALLAH iam quite haPpy with my position and where i stand ........

Internal motivation is the inner gratification, not for success or winning, but for the Fulfillment that comes from having it done . It is a feeling of accomplishment, rather than just achieving a goal.
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Naeem on 20 Oct 2008, 07:45

Awaraa................


Well its not difficult to understand the condition of our countrymen once you read the post of Daani....

I think its a collective atmosphere of depression and hopelessness which we see in these words....I would like to mention that there is little difference in intellectualism and abrupt expression of thought as we see in the post of Dani.

Intellect defines the capability of a mind to think and then produce complicated thoughts in a fine manner waiting for the results........ whereas abrupt minds just explode and look for sudden feed back....

Daani.....I ve read some of your previous posts and got to know that you were working on some project....what happened to that....I think if you could let us know the details of that project then the question of SOLUTIONS asked by other members will get a proper answer...

Awaara......the collective depressive syndrome is very dangerous.....it needs an anti virus...immediately.....or it will corrupt the whole hard drive of the nation.......As far as a CHANGE is concerened then we all know that if change comes from the public side of the society then it is known as Revolution or a Writ against the government..........If the change comes from Executive and Administrative side ( i.e the government) then it is called Reforms or Law.

Now deep down in my Unconscious mind I need change...a sudden change....but my Cognizant
mind still cannot define the collective way of this change..................But it will come because Change is inevitable.....if not through me then may be through next generations.
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Jig on 21 Oct 2008, 01:28

May I extend the last few posts with a repeat of one of my previous posts.

Folks, it's called growing pains, some grow up faster some a little slower, means nothing. Have faith in us, not all are kids feeling sorry for ourselves or taking out our anger at everyone else. We are taking a good look at ourselves. There is good, but you may have to look hard for it. Remember every civilization has gone though the eye of the needle and turbulent times before it found any success. Thinking ours would be any different would be foolish.
Sincerely,
ZEB
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Re: PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

Postby Awaragypsy on 22 Oct 2008, 06:19

Aslam O ALikum all .....



@ Naeem , thank you for those words anyways the collective depressive syndrome u mentioned is due to some reasons ,mainly deprived priorities and cohesive 'ethical' and cultural moralities .......

Anyways first step towards any change is the concept building ,mentality and it comes right from and with in the youth , AlHumdulil'ALLAH this time youth is definitely changing Without denying the reality and importance of moral and cultural diversity constituting integrated cohesive patterns of social interactions , we must emphasis on the basic that is the soverignity of the nation and practical implication of our Civil and social rights .........
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