PAKISTAN KAY TALIBAN

[Awaragypsy]

Aslam O Alikum all ....



My Absence was not due to the answers i was not getting , there are reasons in life one needs to look in a positive way, see all the good things that life has to offer, and how it all interworks with bad things , there are people in life who need to struggle and there are situtations in life where one needs to concive ,there are things which one never wants to publicise ......

Alas ! Time and agian pebles are not thrown from the farthest corners ,yet few of our own dear souls prove more damaging drastic and more vulnerable then any outer force ......

None accuses me of treachery for trying to simplify ,but I do belive words are worth less when they are spoken regardless of there direction , I do belive few things are never to change or left with less part to be endorced , i do belive i can do my little part , & i do belive that Insha"ALLAH I shall continue doing my part ,I also believe one needs to know the rules even in order to break them. ... ............

MaY ALLAH help us all ......MAy the deeds be they from any one granted the best value they deserve , AMeen .......

[Naeem]

Well well......Its been a while since I last jumped in the discussion and that was due to some work.


At the brink of the last moments of this dying over populated world we seem to be busy in self created spheres of beliefs and disbeliefs. Nature is sitting in one corner of the life and laughing at all of us. Invaded by millions of thoughts the minds are over boiling points and yet we seek harmony with peace. History is shocked, Present is worried and the Future is afraid. Although we seek likeness of One God...One Prophet...One Book...yet this code of unity is far away from reality.

Yesterday while reading a competent hadith book I found a hadith where the Holy Prophet had said that one must use the milk of a cow as it has health in it and one must avoid the meat of cow as it has disease in it...then while on net I found a reference:-

http://www.crescentlife.com/dietnutrition/vegeterian_muslims.htm

What is right and what is wrong??????? God knows well...but it is true that as a nation we dont care much about such things which may lead us to better positions...beef saying is just an example....

Alfarabi once said that such nations who loose their identities they loose their inner happiness...then such nations try to copy other nations and think that they are happy but infact they are not. These nations who try to defy the simple laws of the Self are then ruled by their own vivid minds with no collective imagination or vision of prosperity and good citizenship. They always live in a state of emergency and over rule all personal and collective ethics.

Who says that the pre historic beasts are extinct. We are still living in Jurrasic era. A dinosaur lives in each one of us and they are named as........ ????????????????????????????

Well well well......some things must not be disclosed to those who take words as words and dont understand the idiomatic sense of the phrases. Congratulations....we are very close to extinction....... because we dont care about our scholars philosophers and learned ancestors.....we have a new breed of good-for-nothing super intellectuals including myself.

[Daani]

@ Naeem

Apnaa damagh wahan lagayen jahaan uss ki zaroorat hay....


please do join the upcoming volunteer trip to Sukheki on Nov 20

[Naeem]

Daani

Words have power yet Work is energy.....mind is the source and eyes are the channel. Here its difficult for us to understand the difference between LIVING and SURVIVING.

Anyway.........all set for the new venture........have been in touch with Mr. Salahuddin for current status......I told him that the organic structure is not new but a revival......it has its roots in the sub continent.......all we have to do is to send a letter to WFO and ask for strict implementations. Its the first drop....must turn into a torrent.


Any developments regarding Bio fuel ?????

[Daani]

DOOSTOO AAJ SAY..........Lets talk about some serious issues of awareness and help the society through YEH HUM NAHEEN.

TODAY'S TOPIC PIA

In 2006 a PIA Fokker crashed in Multan. A news channel of Pakistan covered the aftermaths of this crash after Two years. Band file of Geo Tv tried to re alive the issue. Now despite of all other senseless material this program was a good effort of GEO. The facts are:-

1. If , unfortunately, a passenger aircraft crashes then the air company has to public the report regarding the reasons and responsible of the crash. PIA has not bothered to give or present any report.

2. A report was made by PIA and sent to some higher officials in which the Pilot of the Fokker PK 688 was accused of not handling the plane properly. Hence this report tells that the captain was responsible for the crash.

3. The president of All Pakistan Pilots Association has totally a different view. He said that it is the routine of PIA to accuse those who died and hence they cannot come to defend themselves . The real culprits are kept hidden and are safe. Neither any investigation nor any legal step was taken against such elements.

4. CAA directors are hiding the overhauling report of PK 688. Fokker has been grounded by the international Fokker company since decades. Even the spare parts are not available. But PIA is still using this aircraft. The passengers do not know the hazards of flying in expired aircrafts and PIA has never tried to public such awareness. All they need is the money in order to pay heavy salaries and allowances to their in experienced senior executives.

5. PIA has never told the public about the facts and reasons of its recent or past crashes. This is due to a main reason. If in the investigation the fault of the air company is proved then the air company has to pay huge amounts to the families of those who die in the crash. Every passenger is insured and this insurance is mentioned on the tickets.

6. If the families of those who died in the Multan crash demand and file a case against PIA then the air company will be bound to public the details. Secondly if it is proved that the accident took place due to mismanagement of the air company then PIA will have to pay to the families of deceased.

7. Many people died in that crash. learned doctor(a very famous neuro -surgeon), judges, businessmen and crew members. They were gentle and noble souls who were traveling for different purposes. Jobs, duties, family re unions etc etc but the ignorance of PIA and CAA engineering and maintenance staff led them to their graves. Being Muslims we all know that Death is inevitable but in such cases the culprits must be taken to Justice and the families must be compensated. This will also help in sending an open message to PIA that they should not take their job easy. If the passengers pay heavy amounts for their tickets then it is the responsibility of PIA to maintain the safety standards of their air crafts.

8. If we will not ask PIA now then they will keep on playing with the lives of millions who travel in it. The logo of PIA will be changed from COME ...FLY WITH US .............to...........COME..........DIE WITH US.


A request to the families of those who died in the MULTAN crash.....Please get united and take some serious steps in order to make PIA understand that we are not their toys yet important human beings.

[Mission]

????? @ Dani where is ur New NAzaria ?? waiting................

[Daani]

Main eik mission per hoon........kyaa aap bhi mission per hi hain????

New Nazria .....ok ok....in simple words it is based on AGAHI.... ...simpler words.....knowing ourselves better. As I am busy in a project in a remote area...little time to go in details.....

PIA wali baat ki kissi ko samajh aayii ya nahee?????????

[Daani]

Wah...lagtaa hay sab kay sab sooo gayee....PIA wala topic to samajh main hi nahe ayaa..

Waisay bhi yahaann sirf Obama kay baray main ziada batein hooti hain.....lekin kaheen apnay mulk main hee kissi idaray kay baray main baat karnii hoo to Woh hum naheen.

I give the most liberal manshoor of all times.

Sub chupp kar kay baithoo aur sirf yeh dekhoo kay dunyaa main kia hoo rahaa hay...achaa ho ga to hum bhi achay ho jaein gay.

Burraa huwaa to hum bhi burray ho jaein gay.......baqi.........Allah baily

[Awaragypsy]

ASslam O ALikum all ......

I begin with a simple statement of apology which is due to all members and from the person iam directly replying to , I thought and waited long to see some posts regarding dear @ Daani Sahib's " PIA wala topic " and honestly iam once again highly disappointed by reading ur own written i- ll -logical responses ,the cause is of sensitive concerns and needs a serious logical perpetration .
Sorry Meraay Bhai jan @ Daani sahib Isn't it more of a pathetic statement as "8. If we will not ask PIA now then they will keep on playing with the lives of millions who travel in it. The logo of PIA will be changed from COME
...FLY WITH US.............to...........COME..........DIE WITH US."
what a great sense of high concern , Pakistan's owned only soul International Air liner and this is what and how we give a word of fame to it, no doubt the incident was full of grief ,and definitely requires serious attributes rather then such attitude, would this support any cause ??????????????

I Alhumdulil"ALLAH understand almost every word of ur last post " PIA wala topic " regardless of ur recent reply response to ur own topic ,i would rather extend my hand forwards and request that kindly Dear @ Daani sahib give some positive feed back about the incident of " PIA "and how should it be further initiated to prosper rightful results as mentioned ..........

Frankly meray Bhai @ Daani sahib keep ur high manshoor and liberal thoughts a part for some time and discuss this ur own written Topic about PIA and do some thing serious regarding and resolving the major concern , wassay bhi as u said ur self "Apnaa damagh wahan lagayen jahaan uss ki zaroorat hay ...

[truth2]

Dani bhai mujhe ap altaf hussain part 2 lag rahe hoo
jo poocha hai wo aj tak nahi bata sakay bas mun kay fire hain tumaray